欧洲杯买球平台勇士将退役KD球衣,近十年最佳阵

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[Charania] Warriors' Joe Lacob says the franchise will retire Kevin Durant's No. 35 jersey, in statement thanking Durant.

2010s All-Decade Team: 1st team: Curry, Harden, James, Durant, Leonard. 2nd team: Paul, Westbrook, Davis, Griffin, Anthony. 3rd team: Wade, Bryant, George, Aldridge, Antetokoumpo.

[OC] There have been 36 instances of a player averaging 30ppg or more in the three-point era. Here's how Harden's 2019 season compares

[Wojnarowski] ESPN Sources: Russell Westbrook and his agent Thad Foucher are engaged with OKC GM Sam Presti on next steps for the All-Star guard, including the possibility of trade this summer.

据NBA名记Shams报道,勇士老板拉科布表示,为了感谢杜兰特的贡献,球队将退役他的35号球衣。

NBA官网评选了21世纪第二个十年里的最佳阵容。一阵:库里、哈登、詹姆斯、杜兰特和莱昂纳德;二阵:保罗、威少、安东尼-戴维斯、格里芬、安东尼;三阵:韦德、科比、乔治、阿德和字母哥。

三分球时代以来一共有36次球员场均得到30分以上的范例,其中就包含了2019年哈登所占的比重。

据Woj报道,据消息人士透露,威少和他的经纪人正与球队经理普雷斯蒂商讨下一步计划,包括在新赛季开始前交易离开雷霆。

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[–][CHI] Jimmer Fredette Liquidgoldvelveeta 2636 points 5 hours ago

[–]Heat s pyda34 1108 points 9 hours ago

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[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook BBallHunter 81 points 10 hours ago

30,11,23,35 & 9 all gotta be retired

Kinda weird seeing all decade team without centers, the league has changed so much in last 10 years

[–]KnicksSKTauphile 866 points 11 hours ago

TANK FORWARD.

公牛球迷:30号、11号、23号、35号和9号全都得退役。

热火球迷:看到近十年的全部三阵里都没有中锋还是有点奇怪的,过去十年联盟真的改变太大了。

Bernard King scoring 32.9 PPG without shooting any 3 is absurd. Can't understand why the fuck our franchise never retired his jersey. A true legend

雷霆球迷:摆烂前进!!!

[–]Medo YT 857 points 5 hours ago

[–]Raptors ElectricFrankie 324 points 8 hours ago

尼克斯球迷:伯纳德-金不投3分还能场均得到32.9分,简直不能理解为啥没有球队退役他的球衣呢?这可是真正的传奇啊。

[–]Knicks BabeRuthsDad 4625 points 9 hours ago

facts. only a matter of when

No Dwight Howard? Ouch

[–]PacersGetOnYourJob 230 points 10 hours ago*

What a crazy turn of events in 24 hours for OKC

确实,就是时间早晚而已

猛龙球迷:没有霍华德?呃

Well he only really played with them for 3 seasons. Every other retired Knick was with the team for 10+ years or a part of those two championship teams.

尼克斯球迷:雷霆过去这24小时真的是惊涛骇浪啊

[–]Bladex20 87 points 5 hours ago

[–][CLE] Kevin Love quentin-coldwater 369 points 6 hours ago

步行者球迷:他只为尼克斯打了3个赛季啊,每一个能退役球衣的尼克斯人至少得为球队打十个赛季或者是尼克斯夺得两个总冠军时代的人。

[–]Pacers XcSDeadDeer 22 points 7 hours ago

It wouldnt surprise me if they retired the whole main core of this warriors team the last 5-6 years

Yeah, that's a glaring omission IMO. In the first half of the decade he had 5 All-NBAs and 2 DPOYs and finished 4th, 2nd, and 7th in MVP voting.

[–]KnicksSKTauphile 121 points 10 hours ago

Jesus christ. I cant believe "Where is Kawhi going" has turned into "PG traded out of OKC and Russell Westbrook may be gone too"

即便勇士把过往五六个赛季的主力号码全都退役我也不奇怪。

I'd 100% put him ahead of Giannis for this past decade.

Those 4 seasons were much more enjoyable than the last 20 years in Knicks History... He was truly the face of the franchise for 4 wonderful years

This is fucking nuts

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Dongsquad420BlazeIt 564 points 5 hours ago

骑士球迷:是啊,我觉得这是明显的遗漏。就这十年的前半段,霍华德5次进入赛季最佳阵,两度当选赛季最佳防守人,在MVP投票中分别排过第4、第2和第7.

尼克斯球迷:实际上当时4个赛季我们过得要比最近20个赛季滋润好多……那四年他就是我们的门面啊。

步行者球迷:我的天呐,从“小卡去哪儿”演变成了“乔治离开雷霆,威少或许也走人”,我真是不敢信呐。

Gonna be a lot of Warriors numbers retired when this dynasty finally ends.

[–]Celtics Mexter-Dorgan 85 points 5 hours ago

[–]Raptorschris2127 132 points 11 hours ago

这也太尼玛扯了。

湖人球迷:等到勇士王朝最终落幕的时候,肯定有很多号码都被退役了。

over Aldridge too. Hell that is all more impressive than Melo too.

and that they traded away Pat Ewing. the Knicks treat their legends like shit

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Dongsquad420BlazeIt 62 points 9 hours ago

[–]aubieismyhomie 187 points 5 hours ago

凯尔特人球迷:他应该在阿尔德里奇前。而且这数据也比甜瓜耀眼啊。

猛龙球迷:他们还把尤因交易了呢,尼克斯对待自己的传奇就像屎一样。

Definitely not where I thought this offseason was going. my expectations have certainly been subverted.

Poor Harrison Barnes

[–]thartle8 91 points 6 hours ago

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湖人球迷:肯定不是我原先预想的休赛期剧情。我的三观已经被彻底颠覆了。

可怜的哈里斯-巴恩斯哦

I think Dwight should be somewhere on here. He wasn’t dominant for long but just as long as Giannis has been. But that’s about the only center I could think of belonging near this list

[–][CLE] Cedi Osmanllewellynjean[S] 444 points 12 hours ago*

[–]Warriors Duvangrgata1 118 points 9 hours ago

[–]DGgoesdeep 46 points 5 hours ago

我觉得霍华德应该榜上有名。他的统治力确实没有持续很长时间,可是也和字母哥一样啊。不过话说回来了,我唯一能想到的、属于这份榜单的中锋,基本只有霍华德。

Some notes:

Every earthquake has its aftershocks..

Barnes has somehow gotten two huge contracts he’ll be fine

[–][PHI] Francisco Elson LetsConquerThisBread 69 points 6 hours ago

Harden gets a smaller proportion of his points from free throws than Adrian Dantley , Allen Iverson , and Kevin Durant

勇士球迷:每次地震后总有余震嘛

人巴恩斯好歹拿了两个大合同,啥事没有

Dwight was still great early in the 2010s, but long enough to make the All-Decade team? Idk. His peak kinda fell awkwardly in between the 2000s and 2010s

Only Curry got a larger proportion of his point total from 3s

[–]AceJoker253 70 points 9 hours ago

[–]Warriors Tacticalbacon1 48 points 4 hours ago

76人球迷:霍华德在本世纪第二个十年依然是很出色的,可是巅峰期长到足以进入最佳阵吗?不好说。他的巅峰有点尴尬,恰好夹在本世纪头十年和第二个十年之间。

Harden's proportion of points from 2s is the smallest among this group

Just like eeeevvery rose has its thorn

Won a ring, was on a 73 win team, won a gold medal, and now is making bank all well within his first 10 years. He's living the dream.

[–]thartle8 71 points 6 hours ago

In terms of scoring composition, T-Mac's 2003 season looks fairly modern for its time

正如每朵玫瑰都带刺

勇士球迷:拿了个戒指,还随队取得了73胜,赢过奥运金牌,职业生涯头10年至今已经赚得飞起。这就是人生赢家好嘛

Yeah 2008-2012 were his peak years but 2010-2012 were still a dominant 3 years. Giannis is on this list with only 3 really good years.

Giannis is the probably the only player in the league that could have a season like Bernard King, scoring +30ppg without any threes

[–]Warriors Talic 19 points 8 hours ago

[–]New Jersey Nets DarnellisFromMars 25 points 3 hours ago

是啊,08到12年是他的巅峰,可是10到12年仍然是很有统治力的三年啊。字母哥就是凭借着目前仅有的三个赛季高光进入了最佳阵。

This chart excludes Adrian Dantley's 1982-83 season when he averaged 30.7ppg, but only played 22 games

Just like every night has its dawn

He’s also a pretty legitimate contributor every where he goes

[–]NBA tdotRuk 69 points 7 hours ago

骑士球迷:

勇士球迷:正如每个黑夜后都是黎明

篮网球迷:而且他所到之处几乎都能有不错的输出。

Ya seems like they value the end of the decade more than the start.

有一些值得注意的地方:

[–]Raptors Raptors2017champs 8 points 7 hours ago

[–]Lakers StoneColdAM 162 points 5 hours ago

比起这个十年的开端,貌似评选人更看重末段的表现。

哈登在罚球上的比重要比1984年的丹特利、2006年的艾弗森、2010年的杜兰特要少。

Just like every Kawhi has a Dennis

Boogie: “And 0, too!”

[–]Warriors DeadZombie9 74 points 6 hours ago

只有2016年的库里3分比重占得分比重最大。

猛龙球迷:正如每个小卡都有丹尼斯大舅……

湖人球迷:考辛斯:“0号也要退役啊!”

And yet Kobe and Wade are on the list. It seems like they just don't like centers.

哈登的2分球比重是36个范例中最少的。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook wcooper97 3200 points 9 hours ago

[–]NBA Hawkize31 489 points 5 hours ago

勇士球迷:即便这样,可科比和韦德不都有份嘛。貌似他们就是不喜欢中锋吧。

关于得分构成……2003年的麦迪是最现代化的。

It’s a nightmare but so were 3 consecutive first round exits and nothing but 47-49 win seasons.

And JR's

[–]shadracko 47 points 5 hours ago

字母哥可能是这个联盟最像伯纳德-金的人,他得30分并没有投1个三分。

雷霆球迷:这是场噩梦,可是我们之前连着三年首轮出局又何尝不是呢,除了每个赛季赢个47-49胜,啥也没有。

还有JR的号码。

This is a great point. Dwight went #4, #2, #7 in MVP voting in '10-'12, and was an all-star 2 more years after that.

这个祖列里排除了丹特利的1982-83赛季,当时他场均得到30.7分,但是只打了22场比赛。

[–]Nuggets loplopplop 130 points 8 hours ago

[–]zxc123zxc123 16 points 3 hours ago

Giannis went #7, #6, #1 for '17-'19.

[–]Rocketscdrex22 269 points 11 hours ago

Yeah exactly. Making the playoffs is great, but being capped out at a first round exit and a tax paying team is more depressing than a legit smart rebuild.

Media robbed JR of his 2018 GSW FMVP. SMH

As much as Dwight is a lazy joke with a skill set that hasn't aged well, he was a beast who made a huge impact. Probably some recency bias there. Advanced stats don't love Dwight, though.

Curry and Harden's 3 point numbers are just gonzo.

掘金球迷:确实啊。能打进季后赛固然很好,可是首轮出局还得付着高额的奢侈税,这可比明智的推倒重建要压抑多了。

Glad Warriors being classy as they usually are and giving JR his props.

说的也没错。霍华德在10到12年的MVP投票名次依次是第四、第二和第七,在这之后还能两度入选全明星。

Even a shooter as great as KD is barely scraping 20%, and Curry just going for 50% like it's nothing.

[–]Lakers nchs 12 points 8 hours ago

媒体把JR18年在勇士的总决赛MVP抢了,哎

而字母哥在17到19年的MVP投票名次分别是第7、第6和第1.

火箭球迷:库里和哈登的三分命中数太疯狂了。

They thought they would be watching from the sidelines during the Kawhi saga

很高兴勇士能一如既往地那么大度,给JR极大的认可。

虽说霍华德没少被人嘲笑懒惰,他的技术能力也随着年龄增长而下滑,可是他之前在场上也是个很有影响力的怪物啊。或许评选的时候还是有近期偏好吧。不过高阶数据也对他不利。

即使KD这样强大的投手三分比重也不过百分之二十,库里当年占比百分之五十啊。

湖人球迷:雷霆本以为他们可以在卡哇伊决定期间当个吃瓜群众。

[–]Raptors MapleLeafsFan3 36 points 5 hours ago

[–][PHI] Eric Snow PhillyFreezer_ 60 points 8 hours ago

[–]Bullsbird-ghost 173 points 10 hours ago

[–]Thunder rabidbot 72 points 9 hours ago

27 too

It was a dry spell for C's. The league hasn't changed, there just weren't that many good C's during that time. Look at the list of C's now. Embiid, Jokic, Gobert, KAT, Vucevic, Cousins, Drummond, Capela, Whiteside. All pretty damn good players and a few franchise centerpieces. 2 of the biggest impact defenders in the league are C's right now so it's not like the league has moved past them. The league quite literally can't get passed them lol

Michael Jeffery Jordan is on this list eight times. Three of the top five spots. Five of the top 10 spots. He's the greatest scorer in the three-point era, easily.

We are used to instant devastation. Tornadoes, bombs...its in the blood.

猛龙球迷:27号球衣也得退役。

76人球迷:这十年就是中锋的人才匮乏期。联盟并没有变多少,只是这些年没有涌现出当年那么多的出色的中锋。看看如今的中锋,恩比德、约基奇、戈贝尔、唐斯、武切维奇、考辛斯、庄神、卡佩拉和白边。都特么是些很不错的球员,有几个还是球队的基石。当年联盟影响力最大的防守球员里有两个是中锋,所以不能说是联盟发展到了可以忽视中锋的地步。

Great post. Great data visualization.

雷霆球迷:我们已经习惯了突然的打击。飓风、爆炸……这是刻在血液里的。

[–]Spurs Dimaaaa 36 points 4 hours ago

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid sharke93 29 points 8 hours ago

公牛球迷:迈克尔-乔丹在这个榜单中出现了8次,前5有3次,前10有5次,他很轻松地成为了三分球时代最棒的得分手。

[–]Raptors -super-hans 226 points 7 hours ago

Why you gotta be like that?

Yeah there will be more centers on the all 2020 teams most likely

很棒的帖子,数据流无敌。

Honestly I know it sucks now, but you guys benefitted huge from this situation. No way you'd have got that return for George if it didn't guarantee the Clippers Kawhi. That's a historic haul, 5 firsts, 2 good players and 2 potential pick swaps.

马刺球迷:你为啥非得这样?

76人球迷:是的,很可能到了下一个十年的最佳阵会有更多的中锋球员。

[–]SpursittozziloP 304 points 12 hours ago

猛龙球迷:说实话,我知道你们现在有多不爽,可是你们这次也占了很大的便宜啊。如果不是乔治的交易能保证小卡加盟快船,你们是绝对没法用乔治换来那么多资产的。你们这可是历史性的大礼包啊,5个首轮、2个强援,还有两个选秀交换权。

[–]digitaldeschamps 48 points 4 hours ago

[–]NBA F7U12_ANALYSIS 20 points 6 hours ago

This just reminds me how absurd Curry was during that 2016 season. Yeeesh

[–]Celtics rounder55 56 points 5 hours ago

They can retire Kyrie Irving’s knee and Kelly Olynyk’s Celtics jersey for 2015 too.

The league hasn't changed

马刺球迷:这图让我想起来库里2016年到底有多荒谬。

It's crazy to think that there's an 11 year old finishing out some summer day sucking on a freeze pop that's going to be part of this Paul George trade

为了2015年,他们可以退役欧文的膝盖和奥利尼克在凯尔特人的球衣。

Yes it certainly has mi amor. Over the last ten years the game has gotten way more inside-out than outside-in, which has diminished the importance of Bigs.

[–]LakerscrazyPA 39 points 10 hours ago

凯尔特人球迷:一想到这会儿正有个嗦着冰棍的11岁小屁孩儿以后会成为乔治交易的一部分,简直是扯啊。

[–]elektritekt 15 points 5 hours ago

“联盟并没有变多少,”不,肯定的变了的,亲。过去十年,比起外传内战术,内传外战术要多得多了。这就削弱了中锋的重要性。

If the Durant never went to the Warriors, wouldn't be surprised if he put up similar numbers in the 2017 and 2018 seasons.

[–]Thunder theFriendlyDoomer 30 points 4 hours ago

Shaun's 34 is getting retired the moment he decides to retire himself IMO.

[–]Rockets Melonprimo 483 points 9 hours ago

湖人球迷:如果杜兰特不去勇士,2017赛季和2018赛季库里估计会拿到差不多的数据吧。

I mean, hopefully he's practicing his three-point shot right now. At least free-throws.

我觉得利文斯顿决定退役的时候,他的号码就该被退役。

Embiid rose too late. If he performed at least from his 2nd year, at least he'd be at third team.

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雷霆球迷:我觉得吧,希望他现在正练习投三分吧。至少练练罚球也行啊。

[–][欧洲杯买球平台,GSW] Jarrett Jack GillbergsAdvocate 236 points 5 hours ago

火箭球迷:恩比德出现得太晚了。如果他哪怕能从进入联盟的第二个赛季就展现统治力,那他至少能进第三阵。

[–]madlabdog 97 points 11 hours ago

[–]NBA TheAmbitious1 47 points 9 hours ago

I like Shaun but no

[–]Heat spyda34 94 points 9 hours ago

The free throws per game Curry took is least? That’s insane

They haven't won a playoff series since KD left. It's obviously time to break it all down and rebuild from the bottom up.

勇士球迷:我喜欢肖恩,但是不行。

Yeah your right about that he defo would have gotten maybe I would throw in hoford as well even do he is not a true center he played most of his career as center

场均罚球数库里是最少的?这也太疯狂了吧。

What shocks me is that if PG HADN'T asked for a trade, they were prepared to run it back with the same roster and coach next year for another 1st round exit. WB and PG are 100% in the right to not want to be playing for such a shitty FO

[–]Warriors 9_RAB_1 31 points 3 hours ago

热火球迷:你说的没错,他肯定有份的。或许我会把霍福德也算上,虽说他不是纯中锋吧,可他职业生涯大部分时间都打中锋位置。

[–]mrk-cj94 16 points 9 hours ago

雷霆自打阿杜离开后还没拿下过季后赛系列赛。明显是时候推倒重来了。

I agree. If Richardson doesn't have his jersey retired why would Shaun?

[–]Rockets Melonprimo 145 points 9 hours ago

Bryant 35.4 Iverson 33 LBJ 31.6

真正让我诧异的是,如果乔治没有要求交易,雷霆居然还打算原班人马下赛季再来一遍首轮游。威少和乔治不想在这种狗屎管理层手下打球,这是完全合理的。

勇士球迷:我同意。如果理查德森的球衣都没退役,那凭啥能退役利文斯顿的?

Also we forgot about KAT. Man has been balling since his rookie year, but not a single mention.

2006 NBA Be Like everyone scores 30+ ppg

[–][SAS] Manu Ginobili LoneStarDeMar 1450 points 9 hours ago

[–]Lebron MissWCPlayoffs 36 points 5 hours ago

The shakiest in this team, imo, is Kobe Bryant and LaMarcus Aldridge. Klay or Dame could replace him but Kobe is such a big name to ignore. Al Horford, Gasol brothers, or Dwight (he was good from 2010 to 2015, so 6 years of production?) could replace Aldridge as well.

2006赛季——科比场均35.4分、艾弗森场均33分、詹姆斯场均31.6分。

Yeah they really needed this honestly. Nate Duncan made a good point (even if a bit dickish) that PG requesting a trade gave them good cover to make a move that they should have done regardless. I hope they can put Russ in a good situation, he deserves it honestly.

And a statue

火箭球迷:咱们也别忘了唐斯啊。这老弟从处子赛季开始就一直打的不错,可是都没人提他。

2006年的NBA好像每个人都能得30分以上一样。

马刺球迷:是的,雷霆真的需要乔治这笔交易。Nate Duncan说的好,乔治提出交易的请求,使得雷霆有了采取动作的好借口。希望他们能给威少找个好下家,他应该得到这种待遇。

还应该给勇士这帮核心树雕像。

我觉得这个最佳阵里最站不住脚的是科比和阿尔德里奇。克莱或者利拉德可以替代科比,但是科比毕竟名望在那儿摆着。霍福德、加索尔兄弟或者霍华德(10到15年他还是很强的,这就有6年的输出了吧?)都能换掉阿德。

[–]PistonsPapaDuckHere 77 points 12 hours ago

[–]Bucks chemthethriller 475 points 8 hours ago

[–]Trail Blazers bluesbrothas 190 points 5 hours ago

[–]Kevin_Durants_Alt 137 points 8 hours ago

I'm surprised his free throws really aren't that much higher than most here.

I honestly thought before the PG trade and with Durant's exit and klay's injury it was a possibility they could do well this year.

Steph is statue-priority

Kobe belongs on the 2000s all decade team. First team, even. Putting him in for the 2010s is unjustifiable, purely a name pick

活塞球迷:我很吃惊啊,哈登的罚球数真的没有想象得那么多。

雄鹿球迷:讲真啊,我之前还觉得呢,要是乔治不走,在阿杜离队克莱受伤的情况下,雷霆下赛季有可能大干一场。

开拓者球迷:第一个就是库里的。

科比属于本世纪头十年最佳阵的。甚至是一阵。把他放到这次的最佳阵里有点不合理,纯粹是看名望。

[–]brianscalabrainey 98 points 12 hours ago

[–]absent_name 114 points 8 hours ago

[–]BoredManGetsLaid 78 points 4 hours ago

[–]No Seks 269 points 7 hours ago

This is not really accurate. Harden's fouls per drive is near the top of the league, but its actually about the same as Giannis, Kawhi, LeBron, PG. He just leads the league in drives.

OKC as constructed wasn't going anywhere in the playoffs. They got blasted by Utah, Portland, and the Rockets. All in the first round. Not once did they ever face the Warriors. So whether or not the Warriors are healthy doesn't really seem to matter.

steph, klay, and dray all deserve statues

First team, even.

实际上并不准确,哈登每次突破造犯规数实际上只是联盟顶尖,但数据和字母哥、莱昂纳德、勒布朗、乔治差不多,哈登只是突破次数领先全联盟。

就那支雷霆到了季后赛走不远的。他们连着被爵士、开拓者和火箭干了。全都是在首轮。甚至都没碰到过勇士。所以不管勇士是否健康,他们真的都没戏。

库里、克莱和追梦都该树雕像。

Why the even lol he's absolutely first team

[–]NBAButtCrackFTW 48 points 11 hours ago

[–]Thunder uwanmirrondarrah 657 points 8 hours ago

[–][GSW] JaVale McGee ashwinr136 236 points 4 hours ago

“甚至是一阵”

Harden gets a smaller proportion of his points from free throws than Adrian Dantley , Allen Iverson , and Kevin Durant

We always think we are gonna do well. Then we play lights out, followed by horrible, followed by first round exit.

Some reddit user, I forget who, suggested that there should be one statue of Steph shooting the ball at Chase Center and another statue of a 3-point make at Oracle Arena

你这甚至是哪冒出来的,哈哈。他绝对的一阵啊

I think this should shut some people up. All of these really just prove how great his season is and doesn't even include his improvement in assists.

This team had so much talent but just couldn't do anything with it.

勇士球迷:我忘了之前是哪个哥们儿说过,应该在大通中心外面树一个库里外线出手的雕像,然后再在甲骨文球馆外面树一个三分落袋的雕像。

[–]NBA TheAmbitious1 74 points 7 hours ago

“哈登罚球占比要比丹特利、艾弗森以及杜兰特低。”

雷霆球迷:我们总以为球队可以雄起。然后打出高光,紧接着稀烂,然后首轮出局。这个球队天赋是很高的,可就是啥出息都没。

[–]Celtics WeaponXGaming 40 points 3 hours ago

How the fuck is putting Kobe on the 2010s all decade team unjustifiable but putting Giannis is ok? Kobe had 3 great seasons this decade, same as Giannis

我觉得这可以堵住某些人的嘴,所有的一切都已经证明这个赛季有多伟大了,而且这还没有现实他在助攻上的提升。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant tatancool 411 points 7 hours ago

Whoever thought of that needs to be paid. That is a great idea

连字母哥都能进最佳阵,那特么科比进了咋就不合理了?和字母哥一样,科比这个十年也有三个出色的赛季。

[–]xingbo92 68 points 11 hours ago

Sounds like a coaching problem to me...

凯尔特人球迷:应该给这哥们儿的点子付钱啊。这个创意很赞。

[–]Celtics Conor27 69 points 6 hours ago

It really doesn’t to be honest. Getting a ton of free throws while using the 3s as your main weapons is still kind of ridiculous to some people.

湖人球迷:我咋觉得是教练问题……

[–]Bulls normie_McChadson 41 points 4 hours ago

Yeah having Giannis on here and having Kawhi on the first team are probably the two most questionable picks, imo.

确实如此,但是使用三分作为主要武器还能得到这么多罚球对于某些人来说确实很荒谬啊。

[–]Thunder AirJohnston 231 points 7 hours ago

Draymond setting a pick for a Curry 3

凯尔特人球迷:对的,我觉得把字母哥放到三阵、莱昂纳德放进一阵或许是这个榜单里最值得商榷的。

[–]San Diego RocketsBosurd 64 points 10 hours ago

Presti is never getting rid of Billy. Feels like he’s as untouchable as Pop

公牛球迷:还要加上追梦给库里的三分做墙。

[–]Warriors The_Void_Reaver 56 points 6 hours ago*

People don’t look at context. All of Hardens 3s are unassisted stepbacks.

雷霆球迷:普雷斯蒂就没烦过多诺万。感觉他和波波一样是不能动的。

[–]spam21bruh 60 points 4 hours ago

I think Kawhi is justified because his name is permanently tied to two Finals and two FMVPs. I could understand putting AD up there if you wanted to go mostly on stats but, IMO, after last season Kawhi 100% deserves 1st team all decade. Like it said in the article, the first team won 10 championships this decade.

人们根本没看内容啊,所有哈登的三分球都是不受助攻的后撤步三分。

[–]Thunder Angelsoft717 215 points 7 hours ago

And Klay standing about 10 meters away with the "I'm open" hands

勇士球迷:我觉得小卡很合理,因为他的名字已经永远地和两个FMVP两次总决赛绑一起了。如果你想主要参照数据选人,那我也能理解戴维斯的入选。我觉得吧,上赛季过后,卡哇伊绝对配得上这十年最佳一阵的一席之地。就如文章中所言,一阵这十年拿了10个总冠军。

[–]youarentcleverkiddo 37 points 10 hours ago

Which sucks because any other coach would've been fired. Whatever he's doing obviously isn't working.

还有克莱站在10米外张手要球。

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Also he shoots 13.6 a game. that's insane. that's almost more than triple some 3pt shooters.

雷霆球迷:就这才不爽啊,要是换其他人早被炒了。不管多诺万怎么搞,都是没用的。

[–]Mavericks Hiroxis 28 points 2 hours ago

[–][GSW] Kevin Durant shanetrey5 77 points 10 hours ago

而且哈登场均出手13.6次,这也太不可思议了,这比很多3分手出手次数还要多三倍啊。

[–]Thunder AirJohnston 121 points 7 hours ago

Klay's statue should be him sitting on the bench smiling after fouling out

Incredibly lucky to have gotten to see all this generations unique legends at the top of their game.

编译:海上生明月

Yup, but Presti loves him for some reason even though both our star players apparently expressed concern about him so I’ll be shocked if we actually get rid of him

独行侠球迷:克莱的雕像应该是他被罚出场之后坐在替补席发笑。

勇士球迷:能够见证这代独一无二的传奇球星们的巅峰时期,真是幸运至极。

美帝键盘侠—歪果仁精彩评论汇总

雷霆球迷:是,可是不知咋地他就是讨普雷斯蒂喜欢啊,哪怕我们的两个头牌都表达过不满也是如此。要是我们真炒了多诺万,我才懵逼呢。

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[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook thugangsta 13 points 8 hours ago

欧洲杯买球平台 6

[–]Knicks dougprishpreed69 40 points 7 hours ago

[–][BOS] Bill Russell solarscopez 715 points 5 hours ago

I know right. It's so exciting to watch NBA right now.

I think he’ll actually be good as a coach for a rebuilding squad. If you guys ship westbrook I think he’d be good for a bunch of young players

no surprise there

雷霆球迷:我现在已经很期待看比赛了!

尼克斯球迷:我觉得多诺万会非常适合执教一支重建阵容的。如果你们送走了威少,我觉得他的执教会对这帮年轻球员有好处。

凯尔特人球迷:这事儿没啥大惊小怪的。

[–]76ers Johns-Roast-Pork 316 points 9 hours ago

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[–]Enes_Cancer 18 points 5 hours ago

I can dig it. These players are all worthy, especially considering it’s an All-Decade team.

[–]radicalheadphone 1016 points 9 hours ago

Yeah fuck showing appreciation for one of the greatest scorers who helped win back to back Championships.

76人球迷:这份榜单我可以接受,这些人都实至名归,何况这是一份十年最佳阵。

And here.

对啊,这特么是对那个帮助勇士拿到背靠背总冠军的顶尖射手的感激。

[–][TOR] Morris Peterson whodthefookisthatguy 103 points 9 hours ago

We.

[–]Suns LSU_BAW 24 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, this is a really accurate list imo. Is it voted on by media or how is it decided?

Go.

You can show appreciation in different ways.

猛龙球迷:对头,我觉得这份榜单确实没毛病。那它是由媒体投票出来的呢,还是其他方式?

又来了……

太阳球迷:你可以以别的方式表达感激啊。

[–][ORL] Vince Carter derekcpl[S] 45 points 9 hours ago

[–][WAS] Bradley Beal ScaryBullfrog 93 points 10 hours ago

[–]Suns LSU_BAW 1476 points 5 hours ago*

Players were chosen by a panel from NBA.com and NBA TV.

this offseason is legit insane

Guess I’m in the minority here but that’s kind of reactionary and dumb. He played there for only 3 years.

魔术球迷:他们是由NBA官网和官方电台组成的专家组评出来的。

奇才球迷:这个休赛期是真疯了

太阳球迷:看来我是少数人之一了,我就觉得勇士这么做有点过且蠢。阿杜才在金州打了三年球而已啊。

[–]Thunder klatcd 929 points 8 hours ago

[–]Raptors JAYG567 324 points 9 hours ago

[–]Warriors sm0gs 8 points 5 hours ago

Otherwise known as the Oklahoma City Thunder all-decade roster.

I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THIS STUFF

I’m a Warriors fan and I’m a bit baffled too. He brought 2 rings so I get it but it just seems a bit odd.

雷霆球迷:这份榜单也可以叫做雷霆十年最佳阵。

猛龙球迷:我本以来这种事已经了了

勇士球迷:我这个勇蜜也有点不懂。他为球队带来了两个戒指,我懂,可是这就是有点奇怪啊。

[–]MagicTheHornyHobbit 28 points 6 hours ago

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook Swish4141 1003 points 9 hours ago

[–]Luka 7Porzinwitzki 27 points 5 hours ago

Isn't it? Am I missing someone?

Fuck, I'm not ready for this :'(

Yeah, I don’t get this either. Show KD some love, sure. But retire his jersey after 3 years? Weak af if you ask me.

Harden, Durant, Westbrook, George

雷霆球迷:靠,我都还没准备好呢

是啊,我也不懂。应该给阿杜表达些许爱意,肯定的。可是你说他打了三个赛季就能退役球衣?我觉得不行。

魔术球迷:是嘛?看看我漏了谁没有?

[–]Bucks whosgeoff 1038 points 9 hours ago2

[–]Warriors mohajaf 58 points 5 hours ago

哈登、杜兰特、乔治、威少

Dame literally killed the thunder

3 years 3 NBA finals, 2 rings, 2 final MVPs. We might not experience that for another 60 years.

[–]Lakers KDBurner_ 28 points 6 hours ago

雄鹿球迷:真是利拉德杀死了雷霆啊

In your opinion, would he deserve it better if he played for GSW 10 seasons but no rings?

Melo

[–]Bulls ClaymoresRevenge 91 points 9 hours ago

勇士球迷:阿杜3年3进总决赛,两个冠军戒指,2次FMVP。或许再过60年我们都不会有这种体验。

甜瓜啊

He waved bye and just like that everything changed

按照楼上的观点,是不是说如果阿杜在我勇打了10年却没夺冠,反倒更应该退役球衣?

[–]Thunder Mitropa69 198 points 6 hours ago*

公牛球迷:他那次挥别之后,一切都变了

[–]Heat smoltanboi 13 points 5 hours ago

And that’s not counting CP3 who is on OKC now.

[–]Thunder pinata26 403 points 9 hours ago

he was the final piece in arguably the greatest team of the 2000s. it’s fair.

雷霆球迷:这还没算今夏加盟的保罗。

He did us a huge favor tbh

热火球迷:阿杜可是新世纪以来最伟大球队的终极拼图。退役他的球衣很合理啊

[–]Hornets philjacksonspeyote 43 points 8 hours ago

雷霆球迷:讲真,他帮了我们一个大忙

[–][OKC] Carmelo Anthony jataba115 126 points 5 hours ago

It’s absolutely shocking that OKC didn’t win a title this decade.

[–]Thunder Wes___Mantooth 92 points 9 hours ago

And if healthy would’ve done it 3 times. The only way the Warriors win that series is with him healthy.

黄蜂球迷:雷霆这十年居然没一次夺冠,绝对震惊啊、

Yeah Im stoked about the PG trade. We have to wait awhile but we have a really bright future now.

雷霆球迷:而且他要是不伤,那就三次夺冠了。勇士能赢得总决赛的唯一方式就是阿杜健康出战。

[–]blackpenance 15 points 6 hours ago

雷霆球迷:是啊,乔治离队我是很欢喜的。本来我们还得等些日子,可是现在,我们真的拥有一个光明的未来。

[–]Warriors PurplePrimus 160 points 4 hours ago

More shocking they didn't pay Harden lmao

[–]Money OnTheBeat 59 points 8 hours ago

Oh I don't know. I think there's an argument for the Warriors being able to win with a healthy Klay

更震惊的是他们当年没有续约哈登,哈哈哈

Yeah a real bright future of a bunch of #25+ draft picks

勇士球迷:哦,这我就不好说了。不是有种说法是,克莱健康我勇也能夺冠嘛

[–]Apple Muffin12 59 points 7 hours ago

一堆25名往后的选秀签,能不光明嘛

[–]Warriors ButObviously 709 points 5 hours ago

That many good players...

[–]Lakers matticans7pointO 15 points 6 hours ago

In a vacuum I wouldn't do it. But I suspect the Warriors want to attract future high powered free agents, so being as gracious as possible is a better look.

雷霆涌现太多出色的球星了……

Thunder have always been a good drafting team though. And they could still get more picks/young players by trading Westbrook.

勇士球迷:一般情况下,我也不支持退役他的号码。可是我猜我勇这么做是希望以后能吸引大牌自由球员加盟,所以尽量表现得大方些,说出去也好听些嘛

[–][MEM] Allen Iverson 5t3v3n23 1149 points 9 hours ago

湖人球迷:雷霆向来擅长选秀啊。而且要是送走威少,人家还能得到选秀签和年轻人。

[–]Celtics 401klaser 26 points 5 hours ago

Cant believe they put Thanasis Antetokoumpo on the all-decade team.

[–]Thunder kamikazeguy 110 points 10 hours ago

very good point - I was about to shit on this, but this makes sense

灰熊球迷:居然还把字母哥他哥放到最佳阵了,不可思议哦

Thunder about to have more draft picks than the rest of the league combined.

凯尔特人球迷:你这个观点很棒。我本来想喷的,不过你说的有道理。

[–][ORL] Vince Carter derekcpl[S] 519 points 9 hours ago

雷霆球迷:我雷的选秀签怕是要比联盟其他队加起来还多。

[–][BOS] Marcus Smart IdEgoLeBron 88 points 5 hours ago

Thomas Bryant on 3rd team is questionable too

[–]OKC Hornets TheDharmaDude 14 points 8 hours ago

Sure, but there's a gap between "be as gracious as possible" and "retire someone's jersey"

魔术球迷:三阵里的托马斯-布莱恩特也有问题呢

And Presti is the GOAT of drafting. thunder going to be scary good in the next 5 years.

凯尔特人球迷:的确,可是“尽量大方”和“退役某人的球衣”这是有区别的啊。

[–]Bulls tummysqueker[] 106 points 8 hours ago*

毕竟普雷斯蒂是选秀之王。雷霆五年后会很猛的。

[–]Warriors PM_ME_UR_THONG_N_ASS 43 points 2 hours ago

Meyers L3G3ND definitely deserves to be on the 1st team though

[–]Trail Blazers foofaw 221 points 8 hours ago

This is the Golden State Warriors. The wall of jerseys isn’t exactly full.

公牛球迷:可是一阵里的迈尔斯-莱昂纳德绝对没毛病。

I think once the initial shock of all of this wears off, your fanbase will realize that you are better off in the long run. Y'all have way more directions to go in now.

勇士球迷:毕竟我们是金州勇士。球衣墙还没挂满呢

[–][LAC] Bill Walton PMinisterOfMalaysia 16 points 6 hours ago

But it always sucks to see your franchise player leave. Can't imagine what it would be like to lose Dame, so I feel for you guys.

[–]76ers Skigazzi 75 points 5 hours ago

I can't believe Paul George made the second and third team.

开拓者球迷:我觉得经过乔治交易之后,威少这事儿也没啥了,你们雷蜜会意识到的,从长远来看,这么做对球队更好。现在你们的建队方向更多了。

I don't think 3 seasons with a team = name in the rafters, I don't care how good they were. But GSW did retire Tom Meschery's number for some reason.

快船球迷:保罗-乔治既进了二阵又进了三阵,不敢信啊

[–]Celtics ssjgoat 97 points 7 hours ago

76热球迷:我不觉得在一支球队效力3个赛季过后就该让他的名字高扬在球馆上空,我可不在乎他之前的表现有多厉害。可是因为某些原因,勇士当初确实是连汤姆-梅斯切里(在勇士效力过6个赛季,仅入选过一次全明星)的号码都退役了。

[–][LAL] Rick Fox melperz 37 points 8 hours ago

It's also possible they trade Westbrook and don't make the post season at all for the next decade. Not like OKC is a hotspot to FAs. Also if attendance goes down bad enough, the team might move.

[–]Bulls TallAssFuker 44 points 3 hours ago

James Harden is so good he was listed twice

So I don't agree with your assessment that it will be better in the long run since they may not even exist in the long run.

The Heat retired 23 when Jordan didn’t even play there, anything is possible.

湖人球迷:詹姆斯-哈登太厉害了,他的名字被提了两次。

I want him to stay but that boy has to learn how to shoot 3s.

公牛球迷:乔丹都没在热火打过球呢,人家还不是退役了23号,一切皆有可能。

[–]Suns clearsurname 20 points 9 hours ago

凯尔特人球迷:他们也有可能在送走威少之后接下来十年都无缘季后赛。俄克拉荷马在转会市场又不抢手。再者说了,要是上座率低的吓人的话,球队或许还会搬走。

[–]Supersonics alik7 53 points 5 hours ago

Uhh anyone gonna comment on the lack of Nowitzki here? He won a championship against the Heat big 3 this decade

所以我不赞同楼上说的长期来看会更好,因为长远些说,雷霆或许都不在了。

Kawhi bout to get retired in Toronto

太阳球迷:这份榜单没有诺维茨基有谁要说点什么吗?这十年,他可是在热火三巨头头上拿过一个冠军的。

我也希望威少留队,可是那哥们儿得学会投三分啊。

超音速球迷:小卡的球衣还不是会被多伦多退役

[–]Mavericks Compton528 56 points 7 hours ago

[–]Pacers MindofShadow 83 points 6 hours ago

[–]BenDarioMcConniid 73 points 5 hours ago

Dirk gotta be on here if we putting Giannis.

Exactly.

It would make sense if he did.

独行侠球迷:要是字母哥都能上,那德克肯定得有。

What if somes picks convey late? What if those picks happen in a shit draft? What if they just miss in the draft?

退役他的号码也是说得过去的。

[–]Raptors TyCooper8 42 points 4 hours ago

Before you know it, 8 years when by and you've become the Wizards

[–]Raptors _thedarkknight 22 points 5 hours ago

the whole list has hella bad recency bias

步行者球迷:确实。如果雷霆那些选秀签很靠后呢?要是这些选秀签碰上了一届很菜的新秀呢?要是他们错过选秀呢?

Better than Vince getting retired.

猛龙球迷:这整个榜单里的近期倾向不要太明显哦

一晃八年过去,等你发现的时候,你都成了奇才了。

猛龙球迷:总好过退役卡特的号码

[–]seasodiumchloride 111 points 7 hours ago

[–]Wizards LongLongIsland 69 points 5 hours ago

[–]Lakers Zurdo112 34 points 5 hours ago*

Somebody forgot Dirk played basketball. Really well.

bro :(

For comparison, would anyone be mad at the Heat for retiring 6 for LeBron?

有些人忘了德克也打过篮球。真棒

奇才球迷:老铁……

湖人球迷:做个比较啊,热火要是退役老詹的6号球衣,会不会有很多人不爽?

[–]Suns iamadragan 28 points 6 hours ago*

[–]Celtics houseshoes93 731 points 9 hours ago

[–]Fatal Firecrotch 12 points 4 hours ago

I thought so too but he only made 4 all star games this decade, one 2nd team and one 3rd team all-nba. He doesn't really have an argument for this decade

Maybe it's foolish thinking, but I've always thought Russell would retire a Thunder

Mad is a strong word, but I don’t think they should. Even then, I would still say it is a slightly different situation. Miami was decent, but weren’t a title threat before Lebron and bosh joined. The warriors has been in back to back finals with the best record in NBA history.

太阳球迷:我开始也这么认为,可是德克这个十年只有四次入选全明星啊,一次赛季最佳阵二阵、一次三阵。要说入选这十年的最佳阵,还真站不住脚、

凯尔特人球迷:或许我的想法很蠢,可是我老以为威少会在雷霆退役。

不爽这个说法过了,不过我觉得他们不该反对。哪怕回到当时,我觉得情况和勇士也是有点不同的。詹姆斯和波什加盟之前,热火还可以,但是还不足以争冠。而在阿杜加盟之前,勇士已经连续两年进总决赛了,而且还打出了联盟最佳常规赛战绩。

[–][DAL] Steve Nash aceofspadez138 19 points 4 hours ago

[–]Mavericks throwaway25813 461 points 9 hours ago

[–][OKC] Paul George TFred23 172 points 5 hours ago

They counted it from 09-10. He had two second team and one third team selection, 5 all-star selections, and a championship. I don’t know if that’s enough to make it, but something to consider. Might be more deserving over one of the third teamers.

it's not foolish at all

Can they hang the jersey up in the rafters or do they have to wait until KD retires from the league.

独行侠球迷:这十年是指从09/10赛季开始算的。诺维茨基两次赛季最佳阵二阵、一次三阵,五次进全明星,还有一个冠军。这些成绩够不够入选我不知道,可是总有得说吧。或许德克比近十年最佳阵三阵里的其中更该入选。

a few months back when dirk retired i asked this very sub about who would break Dirk's streak of 21 seasons of the same team and the most popular answer was Russ

雷霆球迷:勇士是直接把阿杜的球衣挂上去还是等到阿杜退役再说

[–]Suns iamadragan 8 points 4 hours ago

独行侠球迷:你这想法一点都不蠢。

[–][GSW] Jarrett Jack GillbergsAdvocate 217 points 5 hours ago

Oh I didn't know that year counted. Then yeah he should've definitely been in consideration. Probably moreso than Giannis especially with the 2011 finals.

几个月前德克退役的时候,我还在这个论坛问谁会打破德克效力同一支球队21年的纪录,当时最高亮的答案就是威少。

You have to be retired for your jersey to be retired.

太阳球迷:哦,我之前不知道那个赛季也算。那这样的话,德克肯定应该被予以考虑的。或许比字母哥更配,毕竟有11年的总决赛。

[–]Thunder HolyRicardoiGuess 290 points 8 hours ago

勇士球迷:只有球员退役之后,他的球衣才会被退役。

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i miss a few months ago

[–]Thunder Bestbrook123 18 points 5 hours ago

[–]Warriors klankthompson 42 points 11 hours ago

雷霆球迷:我想念几个月前了。

The real question is if the Thunder retires his number. I'm 50 50 on it.

Il take this decades top 5 vs any. I said it.

[–]Thunder HolyRicardoiGuess 37 points 6 hours ago

雷霆球迷:真正的问题是雷霆会不会退役阿杜的号码,我的态度是一半对一半。

勇士球迷:我觉得最佳阵一阵的五人可以和任意时期的五人抗衡。我说的!

i miss 2012:(

[–]Thunder Ssumday_is_love 7 points 5 hours ago

[–]Kevin_Durants_Alt 96 points 10 hours ago

雷霆球迷:我想念2012年

No, rather retire Serge or Stevie

That's not crazy, but I think I'd have to bet on 90s. Stockton, Jordan, Pippen, Olajuwon, Shaq? Or something like that. Yeesh

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雷霆球迷:不,还不如退役伊巴卡或者亚当斯的。

也正常,不过我更看好90年代的一阵。斯托克顿、乔丹、皮蓬、奥拉朱旺,或者是奥尼尔这个级别的?

[–]Mavericks VictorAkwaowo1 1681 points 9 hours ago

[–]Knicks Saucy_Totchie 37 points 2 hours ago

[–]Lakers KobilleBryeal 43 points 10 hours ago*

He gone

I mean KD is pretty much the only person I can think of who wears 35.

Give me 2000s.

独行侠球迷:他要走了

尼克斯球迷:要说穿35号球衣的球员,我基本只能想到杜兰特。

Dwade Kobe Lebron Duncan Shaq

[–]Trail Blazers MoDollazz 115 points 9 hours ago

[–]Suns BouncePassFetish 42 points an hour ago

Shaq would have a field day with any of those guys guarding him.

Kinda sad if it happens but OKC needs to rebuild

Dragan “white KD” Bender

湖人球迷:那我选本世纪头十年的、

开拓者球迷:要真走了会有点伤感,可是雷霆必须重建

太阳球迷:还有德拉甘-白阿杜-本德尔。

韦德、科比、詹姆斯、邓肯和奥尼尔。

[–][OKC] Andre Roberson BrownStreakInMyPants 709 points 10 hours ago

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不管谁防奥尼尔,都是送。

Everyone calls him a “bum” and “stat padder” until he becomes available to trade

[–]76ers kokin33 34 points 6 hours ago

[–]Pelicans PattyMaHeisman 44 points 9 hours ago

雷霆球迷:在他进入交易市场之前,大家都说他是“菜鸡”、“数据刷子”。

uuh that soon?

80s would be as good too, imo. Magic, Bird, Jordan, Hakeem, Kareem, Dr. J, or whoever else you’d have top 5.

[–]Bucks whosgeoff 343 points 10 hours ago

76人球迷:呃,这会不会太快了些?

鹈鹕球迷:我觉得80年代的五人也很强。魔术师、伯德、乔丹、奥拉朱旺、贾巴尔或者J博士,反正选前五吧。

I feel like there’s plenty of teams that would pass on Russ

[–][DAL] Luka Doncic SMOKE-B-BOMB 25 points 5 hours ago

[–]Knicks BanBandwagonersNow 60 points 9 hours ago

雄鹿球迷:我觉得还是有很多球队会不要威少啊。

Lmao I guess getting your number retired lost its meaning

Melo getting some respect.

[–]Cavaliers Agnonzach 11 points 8 hours ago

独行侠球迷:哈哈哈,我觉得球衣号码退役已经失去了意义。

尼克斯球迷:甜瓜这次终于得到了一些尊重。

Honestly I would take him. If we can get him for a couple of first rounders I think that makes us a 2nd tier team in the East. Plus you reunite Love and WB. If no one else wants him we should jump on this

[–]Celtics PinkFloyd_Mayweather 9 points 6 hours ago

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook thugangsta 22 points 8 hours ago

骑士球迷:讲真,要我就想要他。如果我骑能用几个首轮得到他,那我觉得我们可以在东部成为一支二流球队。而且你还能让威少和乐福重聚。如果没人想要他,那我们应该冲上去。

That man may have just sacrificed the rest of his career for that franchise.

As he should

[–]Wizards MasochistNbaFan 55 points 10 hours ago

Well deserved

雷霆球迷:应该的。

I love Westbrook

凯尔特人球迷:那个男人或许已经为了勇士牺牲了余下的职业生涯。

[–][IND] George Hill NABAKLAB 10 points 6 hours ago

Hope he joins an eastern team

球衣退役当之无愧。

Yeah. He's one of the few ones who have put up 10K points for two different franchises.

奇才球迷:我爱威少。希望他来东部。

[–]Hawks EatingSexually 145 points 6 hours ago

步行者球迷:是的。他是少数几个为两支不同球队得分破万的球员之一。

[–]ThugosaurusFlex_1017 55 points 8 hours ago

Durant gets a ton of shit, but back to back finals victories and two FMVPs is a hell of an accomplishment. Well deserved jersey retirement.

[–]Wizards bforbes0605 472 points 9 hours ago

Xinjiang is ready.

老鹰球迷:很多人都喷杜兰特,可是背靠背夺冠,还有两个FMVP,这特么可是很了不起的成就啊。完全当得起球衣退役。

Wade/Kobe/Giannis are questionable, the 2010s won’t be any of their best decades

新疆准备好了。

[–]Kings andre_macassi 20 points 3 hours ago

奇才球迷:韦德、科比和字母哥的入选还是得打个问号,近十年不会是他们任何一个人的最佳十年。

[–]Warriors SocialistNixon 5 points 5 hours ago

I won’t discount KDs accomplishments, he is a generations talent. However he pulled one of the weakest moves in NBA history, and deserves all the criticism until he proves he can do it on his own team.

[–]benson822175 31 points 7 hours ago

Certainly East

国王球迷:我不会贬低阿杜的成就,他是一代人才有一个的天才。可是呢,他当初的转会是NBA史上最为人诟病的操作之一,在他独自带队证明自己之前,所有的批评都是他应得的。

Early 2010s wade and Kobe were still top 2 SGs in the league for a while and both won rings in the decade so it makes sense to me

勇士球迷:绝对的东方。

[–]Lakers eagles310 22 points 3 hours ago

这个10年的初段,韦德和科比还是联盟前二的分卫。而且俩人都在这期间夺冠了,所以我觉得榜单没问题。

[–][OKC] Paul George hydropenguin69 10 points 9 hours ago

Damn wtf a Retired Number used to actually mean something, seems like they are giving them away at this rate 3 yrs and a number gets retired

[–][MIA] Josh Richardson THEKIDFL6 98 points 10 hours ago

I hope we send him somewhere that’s contending but idk who can afford the contract tbh...

湖人球迷:靠,一个退役的号码以前还真有些意义,照这么下去好像要变味了,毕竟效力三年就能退役号码了。

Kobe? Yes Ik he won them the ‘ship in 2010 but is that really enough, paired with the fact he only played half of the decade, and most of it he was hurt/not his former self

雷霆球迷:我希望我们能把他送去一支争冠球队,可是不知道谁能承受得起他的合同……

[–]Celtics K3TtLek0Rn 49 points 4 hours ago

热火球迷:科比呢?是,我知道他在湖人夺冠了,可这真不够。而且他这个十年只打了一半的时间,大多数时候要么伤病,要么不再是之前那个科比。

[–]inmybutt69696969 44 points 9 hours ago

Idk about this. Durant us obviously a transcendent talent and won 2 chips with them, but it seems a little much. He only played there on one contract and then dipped. Plus he joined a team that were champions already. Not like when lebron went to miami and made them champions. Good for them if they feel he deserves it but I think retiring numbers should be a little more special than that. Reserved for all time greats of the team who stay long term. Guys like steph and Klay deserve it more.

[–]Lakers LovetheNBA23 98 points 9 hours ago

To Dubai. Only people that can afford him.

凯尔特人球迷:我也讲不清楚吧。杜兰特很显然是个非凡的天才,而且还随勇士两夺总冠军,可是球衣退役还是有点过了。他只在那儿履行过一个合同期啊。而且他加盟勇士之前,人家已经是冠军了。不像詹姆斯去热火帮助他们夺冠。勇士觉得应该退役阿杜的球衣,这是好事,可是我觉得退役球员的号码应该要比这还要特别一点才行。要为那些长期为球队效力的顶尖球员预备着。像库里和克莱这样的球员就更应该。

He had 4 All-NBA first teams in the decade. That's more than Kawhi and one less than Harden.

去迪拜吧。只有那儿的人能付得起他的薪水。

[–][UTA] Greg Ostertag artie_fresh 80 points 5 hours ago

湖人球迷:那他在这个十年四次入选赛季最佳阵一阵啊。这比小卡还多,比哈登少一次。

[–][HOU] Josh Smith Tacool 183 points 9 hours ago

Yo seriously. Retiring this jersey is laughable. He's a phenomenal player but to be put up there with the likes of Mullin, Barry and Wilt after 3 years is a bit much. I get he put his health on the line to try and win one more but this is a stretch and almost acting desperate. This is the equivalent to when r/soccer calls every player a legend. Does my head in really.

[–]Nets LiaM_CS 29 points 10 hours ago

Send him to the east for the love of god the West has no air to breathe

爵士球迷:说真的,退役阿杜的球衣很可笑。他的确是个很杰出的球员,可是你要把才打了三个赛季的他和穆林、巴里和张伯伦这些球员相提并论,这就是过了。我知道,他为了帮助球队再取一冠冒险复出,可还是很牵强。这就等于足球区的人把每个球员都称作是名宿一样。

Yeah Kobe’s only real accomplishment was the chip in 2010. And if that’s good enough to get him in then Dirk should probably be in for aldridge as well.

火箭球迷:把他送去东部吧,西部已经没有呼吸的地儿了

[–]ryan099 44 points 5 hours ago

篮网球迷:是啊,科比近十年真正的成就只有那个冠军。如果凭这就能让他入选近十年最佳阵,那德克或许该换掉阿德。

[–]76ers i_love_wawa_ 409 points 10 hours ago

Wilt Chamberlain?

[–]Raptors austine567 30 points 7 hours ago

san antonio detroit or miami im telling you

I mean I love the guy but what did he do for the warriors? Miss the playoffs?

1st team all NBA isn't an accomplishment anymore? or All-Defensive?

76人球迷:我就这么说了,马刺、活塞和热火,三选一、

张伯伦?

猛龙球迷:难道赛季最佳阵一阵都不算成就了吗?赛季最佳防守阵也不算?

[–][DET] Michael Curry MintyFreshBreathYo 18 points 9 hours ago

我很喜欢他,可是他又为勇士做了什么呢?错过季后赛?

[–]Mavericks RaefLaFriends 34 points 8 hours ago

I would riot if we included Blake in a trade for Westbrook

[–][GSW] Chris Mullin WindLane 1 point an hour ago

Lillard prolly had a better decade than Kobe.

活塞球迷:要是我们为了威少搭上了格里芬,那我就造反

Set the all-time record for points in a game, the record for points per game in a season, and just a stupid amount of other records.

独行侠球迷:就这十年来说,利拉德或许比科比更好。

[–]Spurs CaptainPussybeast 77 points 9 hours ago

Yeah - he did nothing for the Warriors.

[–]Raptors austine567 66 points 7 hours ago*

San Antonio has like 20 guards on a 15man roster

勇士球迷:单场比赛就创下历史单场最高分,还有单赛季场均最高分,还有很多纪录。

How do you figure?

马刺球迷:我刺这个15人的名单里都快有20个后卫了……

是,你说不行就不行吧。

Dame - 4 Time All NBA (1x 1st, 2x 2nd, 1x 3rd), 4 Time All Star, RotY. 7x Player of the week, 7x Rookie of the Month. 23.5/4.2/6.3 on .434/.368/.889

[–][POR] Damian Lillard Familyguy35 18 points 10 hours ago

[–]Warriors HanlonsRazors 12 points 5 hours ago

Kobe - 4 Time All NBA (All 1st Team), 3 Time All-Defensive (2x 1st, 1x 2nd), 7 Time All Star, 9x Player of the Week, 4x Player of the Month, 1 Finals MVP, 1 Championship, 1 All Star Game MVP. 24.7/5.1/4.8 on .431/.309/.829

The least Spurs player ever

How many players can you name that have 2 FMVPs with one team and didn’t get their number retired?

I don't think he had a better decade.

开拓者球迷:威少是史上最不马刺的球员

If the Heat retired Bosh and Lebron I don’t see why the Warriors should retire KD.

猛龙球迷:那你是怎么看出来的?

[–]Spurs youarebroke 144 points 10 hours ago

He’s a huge reason we went to 3 straight finals and won 2 rings lol I’m not even sure why this is a debate

利拉德:4次赛季最佳阵(1次一阵、2次二阵、1次三阵),四次全明星,年度最佳新秀,7次周最佳,7次月度最佳新秀,场均23.5+4.2+6.3,三项命中率分别为43.4%、36.8%、88.9%;

What a bunch of morons suggesting this lmao, he doesn't fit at all

勇士球迷:在一个球队拿了两个FMVP却没被那个球队退役号码,这种球员你们能说出几个来?

科比:四次赛季最佳阵,三次赛季最佳防守阵(2次一阵,1次二阵),7次全明星,9次周最佳,4次月最佳,1次总决赛MVP,1个冠军,1次全明星MVP,场均24.7+5.1+4.8,三项命中率分别为43.%、30.9%和82.9%。

We have good young guards and these idiots think he will pay Westbrook 47m at the age of 34 lmao

要是热火把波什和詹姆斯的号码退役了,那我真不知道为啥勇士就不能退役阿杜的。

我可不认为他这十年比科比厉害。

马刺球迷:蠢到啥样才会说威少来我刺,他压根不搭啊

我们之所以能连续三次进入总决赛,还拿到两个冠军,他功不可没。哈哈哈,我甚至都不懂这有什么可争论的。

[–]Bulls lilmaldo 4 points 2 hours ago

我们这帮年轻人可以了,这些蠢货居然还觉得我们会给34岁的威少4700万,哈哈哈

[–]Magic lpeaden23 11 points 6 hours ago

Using all star selections for this argument is a joke. Kobe was getting voted as a starter even when he was out for the season and when it was clear it was his last season. Essentially, he was making the all star team off popularity alone. Damian on the other hand was notably snubbed 2 years.

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid jakrictel 16 points 8 hours ago

He made them the most unstoppable team since Bill Russell’s Celtics in the 60s. They weren’t losing a championship with this core. It took them losing Durant and Klay in Game 6 for Toronto to win, and Toronto won by 4 in Game 6.

公牛球迷:你拿全明星入选次数来争辩就是个笑话。科比即便赛季不打也能被选进首发,他单凭人气就能入全明星。而利拉德呢,有两次就是被冷落了。

Miami pls

魔术球迷:阿杜的加入造就了60年代拉塞尔时期那支凯尔特人之后最具统治力的球队。有了那套核心之后,勇士不会让冠军旁落。阿杜和克莱的伤病才让多伦多拿下了G6。

[–]Starksgoon 26 points 7 hours ago

76人球迷:去迈阿密吧

[–]Lakers _paroxysms 11 points 5 hours ago

You gotta take into account Lillard had more seasons. Lillard barely missed games in his 7 seasons. Kobe missed around 2 seasons in his 6 seasons for the decade and still got the both all stars. Meanwhile, Lillard was averaging 27 ppg and didn’t even make all nba or all star. Lillard definitely had the better decade.

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook Anti_Matur 47 points 9 hours ago

Most teams have retired players' numbers for much less

你得这么看,利拉德打的赛季更多啊。他进入联盟7个赛季基本没缺席多少比赛,科比这十年打了6个赛季,差不多休战了两个赛季,还都进了全明星。与此同时,场均27分的利拉德甚至没进赛季最佳阵和全明星。就这十年来说,肯定利拉德更强。

Only matter of time. They’ll work together. All these people saying he’s gonna get traded to a rebuilding team are dumb as shit.

湖人球迷:那些个人成就比阿杜低得多的球员,还不是被球队退役了号码,多了去了。

[–][GSW] Kevin Durant ThenVariety 238 points 9 hours ago

雷霆球迷:威少离队就时间问题。他们会协商好的。那些说他会被交易去一支重建球队的,也是蠢得可以。

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Kobe and Wade are weird but I can’t immediately think of someone to replace them. As for Giannis, even Rose has an arguably better decade.

[–]Mavericks sprawljawnz 85 points 8 hours ago

编译:云长刮个痧

勇士球迷:科比和韦德入选有点奇怪,可是我又不能立马想出谁能替代他们。至于说字母哥,就连罗斯的十年都比他更强吧。

Man Pistons would be fucking dope to cheer for with Blake, D Rose and Westbrook with Casey.

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独行侠球迷:我天,要是威少去了活塞,那就“屌”炸天了,格里芬、罗斯加威少,还有凯西教练

[–][MIA] Jason Williams WhoopingKing 700 points 8 hours ago

[–]PretentiousPoster 47 points 8 hours ago

kahwi has no business being 1st team

No joke I’m an immediate Pistons fan if that happens.

热火球迷:小卡与近十年的一阵没任何关系吧

不开玩笑啊,要真这样,我就立马成活塞球迷

[–]Rockets rfreho 132 points 7 hours ago

[–]Thunder Senseisntsocommon 104 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, doesn’t make any sense

He’d look real good in Detroit next to Blake. Russ / Galloway / Kennard /Blake / Adams with Rose as 6th man and finishing games at the 2. That would be a top 4 team in the east.

火箭球迷:是的,完全说不过去

雷霆球迷:威少要是去活塞和格里芬搭的话会很好的。威少、加洛韦、肯纳德、格里芬、亚当斯,再加罗斯第六人,比赛末段打2号位。那这个阵容可以冲进东部前四。

[–]dogfoodlid 57 points 7 hours ago

[–]NBA EmmettRapaportNBA 950 points 9 hours ago

Who else had two or more Finals mvps in the decade?

For everyone saying Miami -- the Heat have 5 1st-round picks over next 7 years, but owe 1sts to OKC in 2021 (unprotected) and 2023 (lottery protected through 2025, unprotected in 2026). As a result, for at least the next 4 years, they won’t be able to trade a future 1st-round pick unconditionally until 2028.

I also was surprised

那些说去热火的,你们想过没,热火今后7年有5个首轮签,可是已经欠了雷霆一个2021年的无保护首轮签和2023年的乐透保护首轮签(到2026年才无保护)。也就是说,至少接下来4年,他们是没法再无条件地交易首轮签了。

那还有谁在这十年赢得过至少两个FMVP呢?

[–]harmonic- 30 points 9 hours ago

我也有点奇怪。

3 team deal?

[–]Rockets rfreho 119 points 7 hours ago

三方交易?

Dude’s only been averaging over 20 for the last 3-4 years, also one can argue he didn’t deserve the first fmvp.

[–]Heat Bobb_o 424 points 9 hours ago

I can’t think of anyone specific but there have been better player this DECADE.

Don't doubt Riley.

火箭球迷:小卡的场均得分只有过去三四个赛季是破20的,而且有人还能说他配不上第一个FMVP。

热火球迷:可别怀疑莱利的操作能力。

我想不出其他具体的替代人选,可是就这十年来说,有比他更强的。

[–]Heat Bobb_o 248 points 8 hours ago

[–]Rockets byRockets 24 points 7 hours ago

Did you miss how the Heat got Jimmy Butler with having no cap space entering FA?

First FMVP he was a role player, bunch of spurs players deserved it too.

热火球迷:难道你们忘了我们是如何在没有薪资空间的情况下进入自由市场得到巴特勒的吗?

Second FMVP he got lucky bc golden state lost everyone

[–]Bulls tfbillc 75 points 8 hours ago

火箭球迷:他拿第一个FMVP时还是角色球员,当时有不少马刺球员也有那个资格拿。

Was just playing around with the trade machine thinking of a three way trade between OKC, Houston and Miami.

第二个FMVP他是走运,因为勇士缺兵少将。

Chris Paul to Miami. Westbrook and James Johnson to Rockets. Dragic, Gordon and picks from HOU to Thunder.

[–]Clippers SlyHoooper 69 points 7 hours ago

公牛球迷:刚玩交易机的时候想到一个三方交易:雷霆、火箭和热火。

The 2014 chip was a great team effort but he absolutely deserved fmvp cmon

保罗去热火,威少和詹姆斯-约翰逊去火箭,德拉季奇、戈登和火箭的几个选秀签给雷霆。

快船球迷:14年的冠军是马刺团队的努力,可是小卡绝对该拿FMVP,行了。

[–]Heat squeakaz0id 16 points 8 hours ago

[–]En_lighten 39 points 5 hours ago

No thank you. CP3 is the worst.

Westbrook was better this decade, I think.

热火球迷:不,谢了。保罗是最菜的。

我觉得这十年的威少比他更强。

[–]sharklavapit 241 points 8 hours ago

[–]Raptors howdopearethedrops 41 points 6 hours ago

Rockets is exactly the team Westbrook fits in the WORST.

If it was 2015-2019 he's absolutely first team, but he didn't really do much in the first half of the decade outside of Finals MVP in 2014, which he really only got because of a 3 game hot streak to end the series.

Morey/D'ANtoni would have a heart attack with Westbrook playing for them

猛龙球迷:要是单说15到19年,那小卡绝对的一阵。可是他在近十年的头五年,除了14年的FMVP(就这还是因为他连着三场爆种终结系列赛),还真没多少表现。

火箭恰恰是威少最不适合的球队。

[–]Spurs Very-Original 24 points 5 hours ago

要是威少真去了火箭,莫雷和德安东尼会犯心脏病的。

He’s not first team during that time. Dude didn’t even play one entire season during that span.

[–]EShy 11 points 7 hours ago

马刺球迷:那时候他不在主力阵容里。他那段时期甚至都不能打满整个赛季。

Heart Attack? Maybe that will force D'Antoni to retire and the Rockets will finally get a coach who can make adjustments in a playoff series

[–]bobbycurls 185 points 10 hours ago

仅仅是心脏病?或许会迫使德安东尼退休,然后火箭终于得到一个懂得在季后赛里临场应变的教练。

I think Kawhi is a better player than Westbrook, but if we are talking all-decade team, I got Curry, Russ, Harden, LBJ, KD for my first team.

[–]Rockets talknojutsu312 301 points 9 hours ago

我觉得小卡现在比威少强,可要是咱们说十年最佳阵的话,我选库里、威少、哈登、杜兰特和詹姆斯。

Knicks should trade for him

[–]Raptors lifecantgetyouhigh 227 points 9 hours ago

火箭球迷:尼克斯应该追求威少。

People acting like Kawhi has been a 2 way KD his whole career.

[–][NYK] Lance Thomas scmsf49 561 points 9 hours ago

猛龙球迷:很多人以为小卡一直都是攻防一体的KD。

yall dont even think before you post you just say dumb shit

[–]Bein_true 77 points 8 hours ago

We didn't want your overpaid old point guard, why would we want someone elses?

Or like he is now...

尼克斯球迷:你们说蠢话之前都不过脑的吗?

难道他现在就是攻防一体的KD了??

我们之前都没想要你们薪水过高的老控卫,这时候干嘛要其他人??

[–]Lakers AmnestyTHAT 65 points 8 hours ago

[–]Lakers suckerpunch085 7 points 8 hours ago

Kawhi went from being underrated to being overrated in one season. If you compare the regular seasons most of those players have had for years, he is wayy behind.

Golden state D'Lo for Westbrook!

湖人球迷:就一个赛季,小卡从被低估到了被高估。要是你拿常规赛来说的话,很多球员都打得好,小卡差远了。

湖人球迷:勇士用拉塞尔换威少吧!

[–]Lakers The_NA_Deft 38 points 8 hours ago

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I personally don't think Kawhi is a top 5 player of this decade. Yes, he has two rings and two Finals MVP's, but that 1st ring and FMVP could have been won by any other player on this list if you replaced Kawhi with that player on the 2014 Spurs. On top of that, he has 3 All-NBA selections during this time period, which is tied for the lowest during this time period. I personally think Westbrook or CP3 deserve the 1st team selection because of how elite they've been this entire decade and not just the second half

[–][NYK] Kurt Thomas The_MadStork 1253 points 10 hours ago

湖人球迷:我个人真不觉得小卡是这十年的前五。是,他拿了两个戒指两个FMVP,可第一个FMVP,你要是换个人,在2014年的马刺队里也是能拿。此外呢,他近十年三次进入赛季最佳阵,这是前五里最低的。我觉得威少或保罗应该入十年一阵,因为他们这十年一直都很出色,而不只是后五年。

r/nba about to be in shambles when Westbrook balls out under a competent coach

[–]Supersonics xRyuzakii 42 points 8 hours ago

尼克斯球迷:要是威少在一个优秀教练手下又打嗨了,那这个论坛的脸往哪儿放哦

I don’t see how Russ doesn’t get in the first team... he has been a monster since his first season in the league. He might not be better than kawhi or James now but has definitely been good for far longer

[–][POR] Kevin Duckworth IanCaesars 49 points 9 hours ago

超音速球迷:我搞不懂为啥威少没进十年一阵……他从进联盟起就很猛,也许他现在不如小卡和老詹,可是他稳定发挥高水准的时间肯定长的多。

I hope it will happen.

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开拓者球迷:我希望这成为现实。

编译:云长刮个痧

[–][CHA] Malik Monk CLTwolf 49 points 9 hours ago

美帝键盘侠—歪果仁精彩评论汇总

That’s just not gonna happen. Westbrook is, in a lot of ways, set in stone as a player at this point. How easy do you think it would be to get a 31 year old former MVP that makes $40 million a year to actually move without the ball and not take so many bad shots?

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黄蜂球迷:这事儿是没可能的。从很多方面来说,现阶段的威少作为球员的属性已经定调了。让一个年薪4000万的31岁的前MVP无球跑动起来,而且别再浪投,你觉得这是有多简单???

[–]Thunder Ssumday_is_love 498 points 9 hours ago

Imagine him under Pop or Phil

雷霆球迷:那他要是在波波或者杰克逊手下呢

[–][UTA] Adam Keefe jliv60 479 points 9 hours ago

Pop would die trying to get Westbrook's BBIQ caught up to his skill level. Some of Westbrook's habits would be hard to break

爵士球迷:那波波会死命地让威少把球商拉高到球技的水平线。威少有些坏习惯是难以改变的。

[–]Thunder TomagotchiPeakin 138 points 9 hours ago

That’s Russ in a nutshell. He knows what he should do he even tries the right things often his old habits just always outweigh them. Still my guy wherever he goes.

雷霆球迷:威少已经定型了。他知道自己该干啥,他也常常做那些正确的选择,只是他的那些老毛病总是占据了上风。不管他去哪儿,还是那个威少。

[–]Warriors athleticshark 137 points 9 hours ago

Westbrook already balls out

His issue is BBIQ and making adjustments

No one underestimates his skill. It is the other shit

勇士球迷:威少早就打出名堂了。

他的问题在于球商和应变。

没人低估他的技术,这是另一码事。

[–][CLE] Manny Harris Swift_taco_mechanic 93 points 9 hours ago

A lot of people underestimate his skill cause he can’t shoot very well and that is completely fair

骑士球迷:很多人小看了他的技术,这也没毛病,因为他的投射不好。

[–]76ers hk0125 21 points 8 hours ago

It’s not just poor shooting, it’s poor decision making both on offense and defense. I know OKC fans hate hearing this but as good as WB is, he doesn’t necessarily play winning basketball in the playoffs where every possession is crucial.

76人球迷:不止是投篮菜啊,还有他在攻防两端错误的选择。我知道雷蜜很讨厌听到这些,可是强如威少,他真没必要在季后赛里打英雄球,毕竟那时候的每个回合都很重要。

[–]Thunder Wes___Mantooth 495 points 9 hours ago

If he pulled it off Russ would be absolutely terrifying. Imagine if Russ had been under Pop from day 1.

雷霆球迷:要是波波调教好了,那威少绝对很吓人。要是威少从进联盟开始就是在波波手下打球多好啊。

[–][CHA] Robert Parish Bignova 14 points 6 hours ago

He'd be insane. Man was MVP without the help of incredible coaching. Give him one of the best coaches of all time ? its game over.

黄蜂球迷:那他就强到没谱了。毕竟在没有名帅指导的情况下他就拿了MVP。再给他一个历史顶级教头?那不用打了。

[–]Nuggets Seanis 62 points 8 hours ago

That version of Russ would be crazy, especially since they woulda had his shot way better with the best shooting coach in the league

掘金球迷:那个版本的威少肯定很炸啊,何况他们还能用联盟最好的投篮教练大幅度强化威少的投篮。

[–]Thunder fryseyes 18 points 7 hours ago

And his off-ball movement would be completely different - that’s one of the most frustrating parts. Hurts his teammates so much when he just stands there.

雷霆球迷:而且他的无球跑动也会完全不同——这是他目前最让人沮丧的地方之一,他有时候就那么站着看球太伤队友了。

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编译:云长刮个痧

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